Category: DNA-03: White Stags of of Eastern Virginia & North Carolina
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Is Hertfordshire the Ancestral Homeland of the White Stags or the Green Men?
In my new quest to research the Babb(s) of Hertfordshire, I have so far ingested about 150-years’ worth of records. The peculiar thing that draws my attention is the manifold way that our surname is spelled. In other areas you see a distinct pattern of moving from Babbe to Bab and then to Babb. But…
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London’s Lady Day Hearth Tax of 1666
Lady Day, also known as the Feast of the Annunciation, is celebrated on March 25th. It commemorates the announcement by the archangel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary that she would conceive and bear Jesus Christ1. This event is significant in Christianity and is observed in various denominations, including Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Catholicism, and Lutheranism1. In England,…
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Hiding in Plain Sight
I should have realized this years ago, but while talking to someone about the Avon Dale Babb letter that is up for Auction, he mentioned Charles Harding Babb, who was a pioneer of flight and had a very high-class client list. Charles H. Babb – Aviation Pioneer It turns out that they were half-brothers. Avon…
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The “Travis Theorem” Yields a Result!
Y-DNA has rendered an answer to the Travis Theorem! The results are clear in some respects and not in others. So, before I go into detail, let’s step into the wayback machine to March 2024 when I first started researching this theory. My words as we started this journey were: Travis, my copilot for this…
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Putting the Travis Theorem to the Test!
In pursuit of his Theorem, our friend Travis has identified a descendant of the “other” Babbs family that crossed paths in Clay County, Indiana. After conducting extensive research to validate that their paper trail leads to the tree we know as the Green Men of Maryland we are now going to put his theory to…
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Avon Dale Babb – Letter May 15, 1918 and so much more!
The 2nd letter, which is really the predecessor to the one I just covered, from Avon Dale Babb to his friend Miss Margaret has come into clearer view! It reveals a deeper relationship between him and Miss Margaret Francis (we now know her full name!). She appears to be his “girl back home”. The letter…
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Avon Dale Babb – Letter 01 Oct 1918
This item is currently up for auction at Gustafson’s (gustafsons.co) with a starting bid of $200. The letter was written just 41 days before the end of WWI. However, the danger was far from over for Avon Dale Babb (5-6-12-12). Between October 1st, 1918, and November 11th, 1918, the final stages of World War I…
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An original wartime letter from Avon Dale Babb, dated October 1, 1918, is to be auctioned this Wednesday, September 25th at noon (CST)
I was contacted this evening regarding the sale of a prospective piece of Avon Dale Babb’s (5-6-12-12) legacy that will be auctioned off on 9/25/2024. I have not yet been able to ascertain the validity of the document that they are allegedly auctioning. In this day of scam artists, I’ll need some proof of authenticity…
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Greenbury v. Greenberry
I have a curiosity to report. This is one of those things that only I would notice because I’m spent so much time climbing these trees over more than 2 decades. As I was going through Jean A. Sargent’s notes on the Maryland Babbs the name Greenbury jumped out at me. Cover Photo: Greenbury Point,…
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Lions, and Green Men, and White Stags???
This has got to be one of those, “You’ve got to be kidding me” moments. I’ve previously established that there were indeed Green Men of MD and White Stags of VA/NC in Clay County, IL. However, I’ve run across an unexpected record that muddies the water greatly! Enter, The Lions of the Sea The following…
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Lions and Panthers & Green Men! Oh My!
Additional research has revealed something I never expected. I first started this quest trying to find out if it was possible for 2 of the 4 key genetic lineages of Babbs in the US to come together in the same county. The place in question was Clay County, IL. I’m several weeks into researching what…
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William Lane Babbs – This Changes Everything
Having examined the life of Noah L Babbs (3-2-4) we move to his brother William Lane Babbs (3-2-6) who is also the father of the man we are currently tracking, “Alexander #2”. What we already knew The story as we understand it is that William’s father John Babbs (3-2) volunteered with the military in 1776.…
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William’s brother Noah
Before we continue tracking Alexander #2’s parents, we need to first tell the story of his uncle Noah L Babbs. This is because Noah left a family history that I’ve been able to locate (archive.org). Noah L Babbs, lived to the age of 95 and told his story in a local genealogical book for Dearborn…
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Alexander #2?
Now, we move on to the prodigal son we know as the 2nd Alexander, who is the alleged son of James Babbs & Rhoda Dixon. He was born in 1827 and is covered in Jean A. Sargent’s work Babb Families of America, pp 460-1. I’ve highlighted key portions from an excerpt of the book that…
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The Tale of Two Alexanders
Listen my children and you shall hear the epic tale of two Alexanders. At issue is an Alexander Babbs who is found in the 1860 Census for Clay County. There is not one, but two claims to Alexander’s ancestral lineage. The struggle is real, and both have their pros and cons. He could be the…
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Babbs v Babbs
The epic struggle continues today as we discuss the remaining Babbs of Clay County, IL. We start with Noah and his father William Lane Babbs. Are they Green Men or White Stags? Who will prevail? This answer appears to be simple on the surface, but a dark element underlies this story that could throw the…
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Crossroads or Coincidence: Clay County, IL
The Travis Theorem suggests that because two lineages of Babbs (plural) appear to have resided in Clay County, IL that it demonstrates a connection between the two lines. This is a gross oversimplification of the theorem, but it is the essence of the idea. Today we start to put that theorem to the test. We…
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The Travis Theorem
Travis, my copilot for this journey, has a theorem. He believes that he has swiftly found substantive evidence that will link the Maryland Babbs to the VA/NC Babbs. I think this is his picture above, but I’m not exactly certain. We are going to put that theory to the test and see where it leads.…
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The 1st Discovery
With the help of a new collaboration feature at Ancestry, I have enrolled several of the most active members of The White Stags of VA/NC into a “Family Group”. Today we began testing the system and one of the results came almost instantly. The feature allows me to invite them to participate as contributors to…
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Set your Compass: Destination Eastern Virginia & North Carolina
Set your sights on the next destination in our collective Babb journey. I’ve spent a good bit of time working my way through England looking for connections through The Lions of the Sea. But for the next few weeks I’ll be focusing in the southeastern parts of Virginia and the connecting lands in the northernmost…
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Nancy J Babb & the Russian Revolution
Today we visit the replacement passport application of Nancy J. Babb. She is the daughter of Enoch Luther Babb and his wife Judith Babb who were married on 20 Jan 1880 in Southampton County, Virginia who were featured recently in an article by the title “Kissing Cousins”. Nancy’s application is anything but normal. In a…
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P. Babb – Kecoughtan, Virginia (1710)
This record unveils a Babb that was previously unknown to our tree. We don’t know the full first name, but the record provides a few details about him. On 20 Aug 1710 P. Babb provided an account of the defects of the ship “Deptford”, that was captained by a Tancred Robinson, on what was lacking…
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Kissing Cousins
Today we take a peek into the lives of Enoch Luther Babb and his wife Judith Babb who were married on 20 Jan 1880 in Southampton County, Virginia. Judith was born in 1854 on the Isle of Wight, Virginia to John Henry and Martha Ann (Edwards) Babb. Their line traces all the way back up…
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The Immigrant Ancestor of the Eastern VA/NC Babbs
Today I’d like to kick-off a discussion about the origins of the Eastern Virginia and North Carolina Babbs. Sometime back we found that over time the Eastern VA Babbs migrated south into North Carolina. My predecessor Jean touched on a number of the documents that I’m not looking into with fresh eyes through the lens…
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Aside x7
I started the last week trying to help out the Eastern Virginia/North Carolina Babb Research Group (The White Stags) try to make sense of their ancestry. Then, in a quiet moment, I was sucked in by an email from a cousin in England regarding a Babb family in Ireland. While researching that, I came across…
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Research Group: NC/VA Babbs
Recently several members from various parts of the North Carolina and Eastern Virginia Babb lineage have gathered via email and are working together to identify the details on the branch that have eluded many a researcher for decades. At the Babb Family Association, we refer to the group collectively as the White Stags. The creature…
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Benjamin Babb (1818-1889) – From Virginia to Tennessee
This book, compiled by Mrs. Robert D. Tice & Miss Jessie Taylor Webb in 1986 provides a window into the life & times of one of the earliest Babbs of Eastern Virginia & North Carolina, which we commonly refer to as The White Stags, to recognize their English heritage. It is provided here courtesy of…
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Richard Clark Babb Jr “The Galant” – Vietnam War Casualty
The story can finally be told of the life and death of Richard Clark Babb Jr, who is one of two Babbs who were casualties of the Vietnam War. their names are encapsulated on the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, DC. I first came across this story in 2014 at the dawn of this blog…
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Avon Dale Babb – Mystery Revealed
Back in May I published a story about Avon Dale Babb. There was a mysterious war medal that was sitting on the photo that was in turn photographed. At the time of the post, I had no idea what branch of service it belonged. I just could see the Crown atop the medal and theorized…
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The Trials, Tribulations and Mystery of Avon Dale Babb
This fantastic picture of Avon Dale Babb came to me through one of his descendants. Avon was the son of Andrew Jackson Babb and Grandson of Revolutionary War Hero Christopher Babb of North Carolina. Andrew has been mentioned on my blog before as his roots were a source of confusion until unveiled by a poem…
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The Ancestry of Andrew Jackson Babb Revealed
A recent query on the Babb Family Association Facebook Group led me to realize that I had never documented the story about how we discovered his heritage. It was first solved about 1-2 years ago as I was working with an Oregon Babb that was trying to solve the riddle of Andrew’s parents. The wild…
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A Whole New Branch of Eastern Virginia Babbs
While answering a query today that involved a branch that I had labeled as Missing when I completed my canvas of the 1870 US Census, I stumbled into a discovery that alluded me 10 years ago. The person only had the name of their Grandfather, which is someone that didn’t appear in the Master Tree,…
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A new DNA line…sort of
I always get excited when the results from a new DNA test come in. There is always the potential to shake things up. That is certainly the case with the latest results I received from a member who has a strong paper trail inside the Green Men of Maryland Babb lineage. DNA has a way…
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The Family Bible of Francis Marion Babb
I was contacted by a new member about a Family Bible that he came into possession of following the death of his uncle. He aunt was about to throw it out if he didn’t want it. Thankfully he rescued it from the landfill and found me! Together we were able to track down that this…
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Charles H. Babb – Aviation Pioneer
Recently, I put out a query for assistance locating a Charles V. Babb who was involved in an article and picture I had come across on eBay. With the help of one of our members I now have the answer and it is a wild trip of who’s who in America. First off, Charles’ middle…
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Charles V. Babb of New York
I’ve got a new Ebay mystery on my hands. This press photo from 1937 lists a Charles V. Babb of Brooklyn, NY as an Aircraft Broker. I am not able to make a direct connection to Charles and wanted to share this picture in hopes that someone could help me identify the right Charles Babb.…
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Announcement: Ian Babb & Jean A. Sargent- Papers now available online
I’m so pleased to present to you the collected papers of Ian Babb. Which are now available online. The 5683 page collection represents the lifetime of research conducted by Ian on the Babb Families of England. For those of you who aren’t familiar with his work, he is the English equivalent of Jean A. Sargent,…
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The Babb Rosetta Stone Confirmed!!!
Some may recall my post from November 13, 2015 entitled Solving the puzzle of the Babb Rosetta Stone, in which we were testing the theory that the Eastern Virginia Babb (4) family was related to the Babb Families of North Carolina (5). We finally had a candidate available from the Eastern Virginia lineage to test against.…
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Book Announcement: Vol 7: The Puzzling History of the Babb Families of North Carolina (5) and Eastern Virginia (4) Now available in Print!
Imagine, a friend loans you their lake house for the weekend, while they are traveling out of the country. You show up ready to spend some great leisure time out on the lake. But shortly after you arrive, a massive storm sets in and lingers for the next several days. As you stand inside, watching…