DNA Waiting Game – Hussey Edition

And so it starts. The epic disagreement will finally be settled.*

Our family and many other Hussey family members in the US have believed for quite some time that Bathsheba Hussey’s grandfather Christopher is a descendant of Royalty. Bathsheba is the Daughter-in-Law of Phillip Babb of the Isles of Shoals having married his son Thomas (1-2).

But the Hussey’s of England disagree and shun any connection between the two families.

All the pieces of the paper trail fit into place save one. We have no Rosetta Stone to make that final connection and must rely on DNA to prove/disprove our assumptions. For ages I believed it was impossible to determine this relationship because Bathsheba doesn’t have Y-DNA, which is only present on the 23rd Chromosome carried by males.

An enterprising member of our group realized that there was an option to move up the tree 1-2 generations and test a male descendant of Christopher Hussey in an attempt to prove this connection and that is exactly what we are doing.

The DNA kit is being mailed to our candidate as I write this post. It will likely be more than a month before we have the results and even then the answer may not be readily available. Our results will depend on the availability of results from other Hussey Descendants on both sides of the pond.

What we seek is a connection to other Hussey family members who track back to Christopher Hussey in the US and others who trace their ancestry at least one generation further to John Hussey or his male ancestors.

DNA can be fickle and there are a number of possibilities that could spoil our results. Any form of Non-Paternal Event (aka Daddy was the milk man) on either tree would give us a false negative. So, depending on the matches we receive the result may not be clear and we might have to wait for more candidates to test to get a clear result.

* In our minds at least.

What’s at stake

If we are right in our assumptions, Bathsheba descends from the following people. The list is laden with Kings and Queens, Dukes and Knights. Nothing less than William the Conqueror, Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine. It dates all the way back to 149 AD (Not a typo).

If we are wrong we will need to begin again and it will force us to change how we think about our history. So, the stakes are high. Regardless of what the DNA says, one thing is certain. Things will never be the same again.

Bathsheba’s Ancestry as we Believe it to be

John Hussey
Christopher Hussey
George Hussey
Thomas Hussey Also Known As: George
Giles Hussey
John de Hussey Also Known As: 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford
William Hussey
Lumley
Elizabeth Neffield
Neffield Also Known As: Nesfield
Elizabeth Berkeley
Thomas Berkeley IV
Lawrence Berkeley
III John Also Known As: of Berkeley
II John Also Known As: of Berkeley
John I Also Known As: John Berkeley of Wymondham, Leicestershire
Thomas III Also Known As: Thomas De Berkeley
Thomas Berkeley Also Known As: 1st Baron Berkeley
Maurice Berkeley
Thomas I Also Known As: 4th feudal Baron Berkeley
Joan de Somery
Isabel Fitzroy
Richard Fitzroy Also Known As: Baron of Chilham
I John Also Known As: King of England
Henry II Also Known As: King of England
Geoffrey V Also Known As: Count of Anjou
Foulques V Also Known As: King of Jerusalem
Foulques IV Also Known As: Rechin (The bad tempered)
Geoffrey II Also Known As: Ferreol, Also Known As: Count of Gâtinais
Hugues du Perche
Fulcuich Also Known As: Count of Mortagne
Rotrou Also Known As: Seigneur de Nogent
Ermengarde Also Known As: d’Anjou, Also Known As: Duchess of Burgundy
Bertrade de Montfort Also Known As: de Montfort-l’Amaury
Simon de Montfort I Also Known As: Seigneur de Montfort-l’Amauri
Amaury I of Montfort
Bertrade de Gometz
Agnes Also Known As: Maud
Eremburge Also Known As: Countess of Maine
I Helie Also Known As: de la Fleche
Jean
Paule Also Known As: du Maine
Matilda
Gervais
Eremburge
I Henry Also Known As: King of England; “Beauclerc”
I William Also Known As: William The Conqueror
Robert Also Known As: Duke of Normandy; The Devil
II Richard Also Known As: Duke of Normandy; The Good
I Richard Also Known As: Duke of Normandy; The Fearless, Also Known As: Richard de Normandie I
William I Also Known As: Longsword
Rollo
Rognvald Eysteinsson Also Known As: The Wise
Eystein Ivarsson Also Known As: Jarl
Aseda Rognvaldsdotter
Rognvald Olafsson
Olaf II Gudrodsson
Gudrod Halfdansson Also Known As: Mikilatti
Haldan Olafsson Also Known As: Huitbein
Olaf Ingjaldson Also Known As: Trekalia
Ingjald Braught Onundsson Also Known As: Ill-Ruler
Braught-Onund Ingvarsson
Ingvar Eysteinsson
Eystein Adilsson
Adils Ottarsson
Yrsa Helgasdotter
Olaf Also Known As: The Mighty
Helgi Halfdansdotter
Halfdan Frodasson
Frodi Fridleifsson
Fridlief Frodasson
Frjodi Olafsson
Olaf Vermundsson
Vermund Frodasson
Frodi Havarsson
Havar Fridleifsson
Fridleif Frodasson
Fridleif Skjoldsson
Skjold
Dampi
Sigris
Gauthild
Algout Gautreksson
Solveig Halfstansdotter
Asa Eysteinsdotter
Asa
Harold Ridskeg
Rognvald Hildir Hrolfsdotter Also Known As: The Mighty
Hrolf
Poppa Also Known As: Papie of Bayeux
Sprota Bretagne
Gunnor Crepon
Herbastus Crepon Also Known As: De Crepon
Judith Tort Also Known As: de Bretagne
I Conon Also Known As: Duc de Bratagne
Judicael Berengar
Berengar II Also Known As: Berengar II of Nuestria
Berengar
<No name> Also Known As: de Bretagne
Gurvand
Gerberge
Ermengarde d’Anjou
I Geoffrey
II Foulques
I Foulques
Roselle Also Known As: de Loche
Gerberge Also Known As: de Tours
Adelais Also Known As: de Vermandois
Robert Also Known As: de Vermandois
Herbert II Also Known As: Count of Vermandois
Herbert I Also Known As: Count of Vermandois
Pepin Also Known As: Count of Vermandois
Bernard of Italy
Pepin Also Known As: King of Italy
Emperor of the West Charlemagne
III Pepin Also Known As: Pepin The Short
Charles Martel
II Pepin Also Known As: Pepin of Herstal
Ansegisel
Arnulf of Metz Also Known As: Saint Arnulf of Metz
Bodegisel
Mummolin
Munderic
Cloderic Also Known As: The Parricide (Killed his father)
Siegbert Also Known As: Siegbert the Lame
Childebert
Clovis
<No name>
I McRovacus
St Clothilda
Chilperic
Arthemia
Dode
Begga
Alpaida
Rotrude of Hesbaye
Bertrada of Laon
Charibert of Laon
Bertrada of Prüm
Hildegard of the Vinzgau
Gerold of Vinzgau
Emma
Bertha
Adela Also Known As: of Neustria
Adelheid de Bourgogne Also Known As: Wera
Giselbert Also Known As: count of Chalon sur Saone
Ermengard Also Known As: de Autun
Herleva
Fulbert de Falaise
Doda of Falaise
Matilda of Flanders Also Known As: Queen of England
Baldwin V Also Known As: Count of Flanders
Baldwin IV
Arnulf II
Baldwin III
I Arnulf
Baldwin II
Baldwin I
Judith of France
II Charles Also Known As: King of France, “The Bald King”; Emperor of West
I Louis Also Known As: Emperor of the West; “The Pious”
Judith
Ermentrude Also Known As: Ermentrude of Orléans
Odo Also Known As: Count of Orléans
Adrian Also Known As: Count of Orléans
Engeltrude de Fézensac Also Known As: Countess of Orléans
I Leuthard Also Known As: Leuthard I of Paris
Grimhilda
Ælfthryth
Alfred the Great
Æthelwulf
Osburh
Oslac
Aethelwulf Also Known As: King of England
Egbert Also Known As: King of England
Ealhmund
Eafa
Eoppa
Ingild
Conred
Ceowald
Cutha
Cuthvine
Ceawlin
Cynric
Cedric
Raedburh
Oslac the Thane
Alix
Rossala of Ivrea
Octavia
Adelaide de France Also Known As: Adele
Matilda Also Known As: Queen of Scotland
III Malcolm Also Known As: King of Scots, Also Known As: Canmore
Duncan Also Known As: The Gracious
Crinan Also Known As: of Athollm, Moramer and Dunkeld
Duncan Also Known As: Lord Moramaer of the Isles
Duncan
Bethoc MacKenneth of Scotland
II Malcolm
II Kenneth Also Known As: King of Scotland
I Malcolm Also Known As: King of Scotland
II Donald
I Constantine
Kenneth Macalpin Also Known As: Kenneth I
Alpin
IV Eochaid Also Known As: The Poisonous
Aed Find Also Known As: The Fair
II Eochaid
II Domangart
Domnall Brecc
Eochaid Buide
Aedan
Gabhran
Domangart
Fergus
Erc
Eochaid
Angus
Romaich Also Known As: Romak
Thrinklind
Fionn Feicce
Athirco Also Known As: Achir Cirre
Corbred
Conaire
Moglama
Saraid
Conn Also Known As: of the Hundred Battles
Fedlimid Also Known As: The Lawgiver
Sibylla Bearsson
Margaret Also Known As: of Wessex
Edward Also Known As: The Aethling
Edmund II Also Known As: The Ironside
Aethelred II Also Known As: The Redless King of England
Edgar Also Known As: The Peaceful
I Edmund
Edward
Ealhswith
AEthelred the Great Ealdorman of the Ga Mucil
Eadburga
Wigmund
Elfleda
Ceowulf Also Known As: King of England
Edgiva
Sigehelm
Elgiva Also Known As: Algifu
Elfrida
Ordgar
Elgiva Also Known As: Alfflaed
Thored
Edith
Agatha
Eleanor of Aquitaine Also Known As: Queen of England
VIII Guillaume Also Known As: Duke of Aquitaine & Guyenne
VII Guillaume Also Known As: Duke of Aquitaine
VI Guillaume
III Guillaume
Agnes Also Known As: de Bourgogne
Hildegarde Also Known As: de Bourgogne
I Robert
Philippa Mathilde
IV Guillaume
II Pons Also Known As: Guillaume
Almodis
Emma Also Known As: de Mortain
Robert Also Known As: also Earl of Cornwall
Mathilde Also Known As: de Montgommery
Aenor de Chatellerault
Aimery I Also Known As: Viscount of Châtellerault
II Boson
I Hughes
Gerberge Also Known As: de La Rochefoucauld
Alienor Also Known As: de Thouars
Aimery IV Also Known As: Viscount of Thoars
Arengarde Also Known As: de Mauleon
Maubergeon de L’lsle-Bouchard Also Known As: Dangereuse de l’Isle Bouchard, Also Known As: de L’lsle-Bouchard
Barthelemy Also Known As: de L’lsle-Bouchard
Archambaud Also Known As: dit Borel, Seigneur de L’isle-Bouchard
Agnes Also Known As: de L’lsle-Bouchard
Rohese Rhosia Dover
Fulbert De Dover Doure
Isabel de Briwere
Joan Ferrers Also Known As: De Ferrers
Isabel Hamelin
John Hamelin
Matilda Erdington
Isabel Burdet
Robert Burdet Also Known As: Sir Robert Burdet
Hugh Burdet
Robert Burdet
Isabel Berkeley
Joan Woodford
Robert Woodford
Petronella Brooksby
William Brooksby
Anne de Grey
George de Grey Also Known As: Earl of Kent
Edmund de Grey Also Known As: Earl of Kent
John de Grey
Reynold Grey
Reynold II Grey
Roger Grey
Elizabeth Hastings
John Hastings
Isabel Valence
William de Valence Also Known As: Earl of Pembroke, Also Known As: William de Luzignan
Hugh le Brun
Isabella Taillefer Also Known As: d’Angouleme
Adhemar Also Known As: Comte d’Angouleme
Guillaume VI Also Known As: Comte d’Angouleme
II Vulgrin Also Known As: Comte d’Angouleme
V Guillaume Also Known As: of Taillefer
Foulques
Condoha
Vitapoi Also Known As: de Bezaune
Guillen Amanieu II Also Known As: Vicomte de Bezaune et de Benauges
Ponce de Montgommery
Roger Also Known As: ‘Poictevin’ de Montgommery
II Roger Also Known As: de Montgommery, also 1st Earl of Shrewsbury
Mabel d’Alencon-Belleme Also Known As: de Belleme
William Talvas
William of Belleme
William de Belleme
Hildeburg
Arnulf
II Aldebert
Ponce
Marguerite
I Raymond Also Known As: Vicomte de Turenne
I Boson Also Known As: de Turenne
Guillaume
Mahaut du Perche
II Geoffrey Also Known As: et Mortagne
Rotrou Also Known As: Vicomte de Chateaudun, Comte de Mortagne
Adeliz Also Known As: de Belleme
Beatrice Also Known As: de Montdidier
IV Hildouin Also Known As: de Montdidier
Adele
Alice de Courtenay
I Pierre Also Known As: Sire de Courtenay
VI Louis Also Known As: King of France, “The Fat”
I Philip Also Known As: King of France
I Henry Also Known As: King of France
II Robert Also Known As: The Pious
Hugh Capet
Hugh Also Known As: The Great; Duke of the Franks
I Robert Also Known As: King of France
Robert Also Known As: The Strong
Aelis D’Alsace
Ermengarde de Hasbaye
Ingerman de Hesbaye
Son of Sigrand
Sigrand de Hesbaye
Lambert de Hesbaye
Guerin de Poiters
Bodilon
Sigrada
Ansoud
Leutharius
Erchenaud
Ansbertus
Totantius Ferreolus
Ferreolus
Flavius
Flavius Afranius Syagrious
Blithilda
Clothaire de Soissons I
Gerberga
Duke Ricomer
Kunza
Landree
Hadwig
Anne
I Jaroslav Also Known As: Grand Duke of Kiev
Bertha van Holland
I Floris
Geertruid of Saxony
Adelaide de Savoie
II Humbert Also Known As: Count of Savoy, Also Known As: Umberto II
II Amadeo
Jeanne de Geneve
Gisela de Bourgogne Also Known As: Marchioness of Montferrat
Guillaume I Also Known As: William I, Count of Burgundy
Stephanie de Longwy
Elisabeth de Courtenay
Renaud de Courtenay
Miles Also Known As: Milo
I Josceline Also Known As: de Courtenay
Elisabeth Also Known As: de Monthlery
Ermengarde Also Known As: de Nevers
II Renaud Also Known As: Comte de Nevers et d’Auxerre
Ita-Raimonde Also Known As: de Lyon
Hawise de Donjon Also Known As: Elisabeth
Frederic Also Known As: de Donjon
Aymer
Joane de Monchensy
Warine de Monchensy
Joane Marshal
Anseline Marshal
Alianore Lestraugne
Roger Lestraugne
Margaret Roos
Thomas Roos
Beatrice Stafford
Constance Holand
John Holand Also Known As: 1st Duke of Exeter
Thomas Holland Also Known As: 1st Earl of Kent
Elizabeth of Lancaster Also Known As: Duchess of Exeter
John of Gaunt Also Known As: Duke of Lancaster
Edward III Also Known As: King of England, Also Known As: Edward Fleming
Edward II Also Known As: King of England
Edward I Also Known As: King of England
III Henry Also Known As: King of England
Eleanor de Montfort
Eleanor of Castile
III Ferdinando Also Known As: King of Castile
Isabelle
Philippa de Hainault
William de Hainault
Blanch of Lancaster
Henry Also Known As: Duke of Lancaster
Katherine de Percy
Henry de Percy
Katherine Herbert Also Known As: Catherine Percy
William de Herbert Also Known As: Earl of Pembroke
William ap Thomas
Peter Fitzreginald
Herbert Fitzreginald
Otho Also Known As: Count of Vermandois
Joan de Vivonia
William de Vivonia
Alice Broadspear
Blethin Broadspear Also Known As: Lord of Llanllowel
Gwladus Verch Dafydd
David Gam Also Known As: Gam ap Llewelyn
Llwelyn ap Hywel
Maud Verch Ieuan
Gwenllian Verch Gwilym
Anne Devereaux
Walter Devereaux
Jane Pigot
Thomas Pigot
Bridget Bowes
Richard van Streatlam
Ralph Lord Bowes van Streatlam
Majorie Conyers
Elisabeth Aske
Richard Bowes
Mary Wood
Henry Wood
John Wood
Mary
Marthey Bull
Darlene Mary Crockett Also Known As: 1-3-1-1-1-1-2-6-2=4.A-A
Theodate Bachiler Also Known As: Theodate Batchelder
Stephen E Batchelder
Philip Bachelder
Anne Flanders
Ann Bate Also Known As: Bates
Bate Also Known As: Father of Ann Bate
<No name> Also Known As: Mother of Ann Bate
Rebecca Perkins
Isaac Perkins
John Perkins
Henry Perkins
Thomas Perkins Also Known As: Henry
Henry Perkins Also Known As: Thomas
Thomas Perkins
Williams Perkins
William Perkins
John Perkins Also Known As: Pierre De Morlais
Peter Morley Perkins Also Known As: Pierre de Morlaix
Agnes Taylor
John Taylor
Collee
Ellen Tompkins
Joanna Read
Alys
Alice Also Known As: m. Henry Perkins
Alice Kebbell Also Known As: Kebble or Kibble
Elizabeth Sawbridge Also Known As: Strawbridge
William Sawbridge
Elizabeth
Judith Gater
Michael Gater
Isabel Bailey
Susanna Wise
Humphrey Wise Also Known As: Wyeth
Susan Tidd

3 Comments

  1. Beverly Hortter

    I am very glad to see this being done. I have matches to DNA testing with pedigrees that go to Bathsheba Hussey. I am trying to understand a paper trail. My Miles Y test cousin has matches with Beeson family.

  2. Lesley Babb Hagen

    That is a very long list of ancestors. I am a descendant from the Bathsheba and Thomas line and wonder if it has been corroborated as of yet.

    Thank you for your tireless work Dan.

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